after all these years of self-reflection, i still struggle with attachment. i was hoping to get some commentary going from other people with Cancer Moons because i think that if left to my own devices i will continue to make excuses for my behavior. it's like i'm so attached to being attached that i can't seem to change.
i recently moved out of the house i shared with my kids' father. he left after what was left of our relationship was blown to bits by his revenge. (he's a double-scorpio). It was an enormous undertaking for me to go through everything we'd hoarded in that home by myself. We had lots of art materials, building materials, stuff from our past and the kids' stuff, plus a lot of things his family gave us when they downsized from their 4 bedroom home. Over the course of 4 weeks, i went through two garages, a house and an art studio, forcing myself to get rid of things i'd been dragging from house to house over the past 7 years. It was a cleansing process to say the least, and one that brought to light many attachments beyond just the physical property. I have heard that Cancer Moon people tend to be pack-rats. I consider myself a recovering pack-rat. I left behind or got rid of perhaps 1/3 of my belongings. Fortunately the landlord told me that since he was demolishing the house, i could just leave anything we didn't want.
Once i freed myself of that stuff and worked through the emotions that came up as i found things that brought up memories of happier times together, i wanted to turn away and never look back. I was told that the house was to be demolished within days of our departure, which was June 27th. Today i stopped by to pick up my mail and found that the house is still standing and all of the stuff is still there. I felt a tearing feeling in my heart when i discovered this, similar to the way i felt when i found out that my college boyfriend had moved out here shortly after i did. I'd done some serious work on myself to let go of that relationship and once i was free of it, i was ready to start clean. Finding out that he was here made me a little bit queasy. I knew that i would not be able to stay away. We ended up back together for another year or so before the same problems resurfaced and we finally broke up for good.
Now i am having the worst time letting go of my kids' father. I love him so deeply and am so sorry for what i contributed to our problems that i just can't seem to peel the memories off of my heart. I wanted to drive by and see my house in a pile of rubble. i look forward to the day that the bulldozer comes to take all of our past away to the dump and hope that i am able to do some similar emotional cleansing. People tell me that it's useless to wallow in sorrow, but it is such an old habit i don't know how to break it. For our home to no longer exist will drive the coffin nails in once and for all and hopefully allow me to start over. But i do wonder why it is that i can't seem to let go without something profoundly symbolic like this happening to me. I feel helpless sometimes when it comes to my emotions.
I imagine at least a few of you can relate to the plague of attachment on one level or another. How do you deal with it? How does it affect your relationships? and have any of you found a partner who complements your Cancer Moon in a supportive way? I know that Cancer sun signs are a good match for Cancer Moon people, but for some reason i've been kind of bored with Cancer men after the initial courting. I'm not really looking to get involved with anyone for a long time, but by the time i do, i want to have made some progress emotionally so i don't make the same mistakes i've made with my former lovers.
thank you all for being there.
love
m7
i recently moved out of the house i shared with my kids' father. he left after what was left of our relationship was blown to bits by his revenge. (he's a double-scorpio). It was an enormous undertaking for me to go through everything we'd hoarded in that home by myself. We had lots of art materials, building materials, stuff from our past and the kids' stuff, plus a lot of things his family gave us when they downsized from their 4 bedroom home. Over the course of 4 weeks, i went through two garages, a house and an art studio, forcing myself to get rid of things i'd been dragging from house to house over the past 7 years. It was a cleansing process to say the least, and one that brought to light many attachments beyond just the physical property. I have heard that Cancer Moon people tend to be pack-rats. I consider myself a recovering pack-rat. I left behind or got rid of perhaps 1/3 of my belongings. Fortunately the landlord told me that since he was demolishing the house, i could just leave anything we didn't want.
Once i freed myself of that stuff and worked through the emotions that came up as i found things that brought up memories of happier times together, i wanted to turn away and never look back. I was told that the house was to be demolished within days of our departure, which was June 27th. Today i stopped by to pick up my mail and found that the house is still standing and all of the stuff is still there. I felt a tearing feeling in my heart when i discovered this, similar to the way i felt when i found out that my college boyfriend had moved out here shortly after i did. I'd done some serious work on myself to let go of that relationship and once i was free of it, i was ready to start clean. Finding out that he was here made me a little bit queasy. I knew that i would not be able to stay away. We ended up back together for another year or so before the same problems resurfaced and we finally broke up for good.
Now i am having the worst time letting go of my kids' father. I love him so deeply and am so sorry for what i contributed to our problems that i just can't seem to peel the memories off of my heart. I wanted to drive by and see my house in a pile of rubble. i look forward to the day that the bulldozer comes to take all of our past away to the dump and hope that i am able to do some similar emotional cleansing. People tell me that it's useless to wallow in sorrow, but it is such an old habit i don't know how to break it. For our home to no longer exist will drive the coffin nails in once and for all and hopefully allow me to start over. But i do wonder why it is that i can't seem to let go without something profoundly symbolic like this happening to me. I feel helpless sometimes when it comes to my emotions.
I imagine at least a few of you can relate to the plague of attachment on one level or another. How do you deal with it? How does it affect your relationships? and have any of you found a partner who complements your Cancer Moon in a supportive way? I know that Cancer sun signs are a good match for Cancer Moon people, but for some reason i've been kind of bored with Cancer men after the initial courting. I'm not really looking to get involved with anyone for a long time, but by the time i do, i want to have made some progress emotionally so i don't make the same mistakes i've made with my former lovers.
thank you all for being there.
love
m7
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Sat, July 16, 2005 - 1:55 AM>>I love him so deeply and am so sorry for what i contributed to our problems that i just can't seem to peel the memories off of my heart.<<
when i feel like that it's hard to let go of the need to find a solution NOW, to fix it NOW, to stop the pain NOW. when i know i've done something i feel is wrong, i want to instantly fix it.
but i've learned (although not well) that some things cannot be fixed immediately or even soon - no matter how much i may want to fix them, no matter how much i may regret my part in the action.
you cannot, no matter how good your intention is, you absolutetly cannot sppeed up someone else's experience and cognition of the situation. especially with fixed signs and water signs. emotions are sticky and tricky and i find watery people and fixed people can divert themselves in nuance. maybe even yourself.
the only cure is time. and time is a bitter bitchy friend. but she's a loyal friend.
>>People tell me that it's useless to wallow in sorrow,<<
Maybe it's my cancer moon talking, but i think that's bullshit. i think to allow yourself to feel your sorrow is to really heal and learn from it. wallowing implies a sick fascination with the pain - and from what i know of you m7 - you don't seem to possess a fascination with pain.
in order to have a deep connection to our Self and to the other people in our lives, we have to be true to what we're feeling. wallowing to me is the equivalent of playing the same old tape years and years after the fact - and finding nothing new has changed emotionally. if your emotional relationship to the incident is continually evolving - then that is GROWTH, not wallowing. and it's depth.
it's weird. you can't sell yourself or your feelings short, but you also can't let them win. the balance is between the logical mind and the emotional body - and for me, that's a very tough balance to strike.
I feel helpless with my emotions too - but i've come to trust that it's because I'm usualy 'ahead' of the curve. not to say right or better - but ahead. my intuition picks up on the why's what fore's before my mind really grasps it - and often before the other party involves does.
but as i've said before, being right is useless. Instead I try to just honor that feeling, and hold tight to my faith that I can trust ME. I also have really come to love and honor time. The more I honor time, the more my timeline speeds up and completion and resolution come quicker.
I'm sorry you're having to go through this. I really can relate, although I have no kids - I feel I've probably felt similarly in the not too distant past.
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Mon, July 18, 2005 - 8:01 AMIn my study of myself, I have found that attachments exist where there is still a lesson to learn. We Cancer Moons tend to feel the presence of these lessons as strong emotions. These emotions come from the feeling of being torn between two realities within the same thing -- the "good" memories of your kid's father and the "bad" reality.
This polarity can be overcome by taking a good hard look at your life and see how you've changed as a person for all the good and bad of this experience put together. From here, you can develop an attitude of thankfulness for the change you experienced and the way you've grown. Finally, you may look back upon that experience with an attitude of gratitude, shedding light on what once was dark.
Know yourself and love yourself, and you will always be greatful.
Love and Light,
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Mon, July 18, 2005 - 8:04 AMYou are so correct..I generally say a gratitude comment to the universe every other day or so.
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Mon, July 18, 2005 - 10:06 PMWow, Soul. That's GREAT!! Beautiful! May I copy that and paste it on one of my other Tribes? -
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Tue, July 19, 2005 - 6:28 AMPlease do... can you tell me where? :-) -
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Tue, July 19, 2005 - 10:53 AMI think I'll probably do it on my "...Just Not That Into You" Tribe. Feel free to join! :) It's a Dating theme, and that is some much needed advice for anyone, esp. where Romance is concerned. -
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Tue, July 19, 2005 - 12:47 PMthank you Soul, that was very helpful. ironically, i just wrote this yesterday in my blog:
"praise be to all the things that force me to change."
and this is a mantra that, as you said, can heal my broken heart.
love
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Tue, November 29, 2005 - 9:10 PMWhat an experience, M7...change has never been easy for me, i feel like i've always lived in attachment, and i've spent many years living in fear of what would happen if i let go. I am very impressed by what's already been said, such sound wisdom...good for me to hear. I'm in transition myself, relationship, location, point of view...here's what i'm learning right now:
Living honestly by four precepts: Show up; Pay Attention; Speak your Truth; Do Not be Attached to the Outcome. (its the last one that is requiring me to step up).
Be Present. it is so tempting for me to go into the future and reach for some goal or place or person and feel that once i'm there things will be better. Historically, i've gone back in time and pined for something long gone that i once found joy in. Neither is really helpful when it comes to moving through something. I need to be in the present, else i lose the ability to really see what's going on around me (Pay Attention), and i miss the moments of stillness that reveal my true self, right path, right action, behind the morass of attachment.
Its all going to be alright. that's always been a hard one for me...but its true, and the moments when i feel its truth are blessedly soothing.
thank you for sharing your experience - love love love for you!
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Wed, November 30, 2005 - 12:41 PMDo u think Scorpio moons have certain attachments to things whether it is love or personal belongings? -
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Wed, November 30, 2005 - 1:30 PMas a cancer moon i feel attached to a lot! i remember everything too, which makes things hard to release.......i esp have a diff time letting go of guys that i have been involved with (scorpio moons......) there are two boys in my life that i have been involved with that were scorpio moons......it took me or has taken me a long time to get over them. i think the battle is what has not been resolved.........i just want to apologize over and over for being a crab to the vengeful scorpio moon............they of course laugh and walk away and want nothing to do with me :( so i pity pity pity and then don't move on and open up to other boys.........i am also a scorpio, but luckily i have the sag rising to lighten up the darkness......... -
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Wed, November 30, 2005 - 3:38 PMDo u know what Scorpio moons go through, Breath? -
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Wed, November 30, 2005 - 4:05 PMi guess i don't know what they go through, but i imagine they go through a lot and i hope i wasn't offending anyone about saying they were vengeful b/c i know the feeling of a scorpio b/c i myself am one, which is prob why i like/attract scorpio moon men.........my brother is a scorpio moon and i have always been able to relate to him on an emotional level..... -
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Mon, December 19, 2005 - 10:36 AMOoof. Thanks for this thread. That was awesome, exactly what I was looking for.
Same here. And my rising is Scorpio, so at the end of a relationship, I tend to tell them off... then come back... then beat them off... then come back. -
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Mon, December 19, 2005 - 6:15 PMMoon in cancer means memories stand still ...
And there is of course a wisdom behind.. That some always forget and some never forget and the cancer moon always recall.. So we the ones who right down history right??
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Mon, December 26, 2005 - 2:50 PMYeah, it also means, at least for me, I can't get over bad stuff that happened when it's time to move on and try to get a relationship back together again. -
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Tue, January 31, 2006 - 11:58 AMThank you everybody for these comments. I'm going through a lot of issues in my life over my attachments to other people and the illusions I love to carry around--it's easier to daydream than to face reality, but when those don't match up, there's a time to let go of the pain and move on. Am becoming more aware of the emotional patterns in my life and trying to change them, and that means not being attached to any particular memory or outcome. Change is difficult, and I often feel like if I can just ride it out, things will settle down--but that's not life. Life is learning to deal with what comes at you, no matter what you wanted it to be. Learning that you can't blame yourself when things don't work as expected...it's not easy. Cancer moons feel everything so deeply and personally it can be very difficult to detach. -
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Fri, November 10, 2006 - 11:15 AMHey, I have faced very similiar problems as posted above. I have suffered with attachments too, but lately I've just learned to accept them. It's part of being a Cancer moon, and we just have to accept that we'll be attached to some things.
I'm not saying we can't be detatced, but we can't try to be so hard to detached that we become attached again.
I don't know if I can help you because I suffer through the same problems, but I know things got a lot better when I stopped trying to be detached from relationships and memories and just let some things stick. -
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Fri, November 10, 2006 - 12:48 PMI remember years ago somebody telling me that a Cancer's life-challenge is attachment. I am sun-moon conjunct in Cancer w/ Venus in Cancer as well. I definately feel the effects of attachment in my heart and life. Ah well. At times when I have coached myself to let go...let go...just let go...I have felt so much pain...so I deliberately go the other route...attach harder. Eventually things HAVE to shift. It's a law of nature.
This same man that spoke about attachment as a life-challenge, also mentioned that fact that a person can even become attached to being un-attached. Tricky tricky that attachment.
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